Will Smith also reveals how he and Jada deal with their marriage to their children.
With a new movie titled “Fatherhood,” Kevin Hart dropped by “Red Table Talk” for a one-on-one conversation with Will Smith about the trials and tribulations of being a father in the public eye.
Throughout the 45-minute episode, the two opened up about their biggest parenting mistakes, how they made their stepfamilies work, and how they approach difficult issues – including, in Hart’s case, his own infidelity – with their children.
The conversation got off to a bad start, as Hart was about an hour late for the interview. Although Jada Pinkett Smith didn’t direct it herself, she joked that her delay was “deeply unprofessional” and added, “I bet you he wouldn’t have done that to Ellen.” “
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As Hart and Smith sat down, they began to discuss what makes a good father – both saying it was important for them not to look anything like their own fathers.
“I had a bad father. No disrespect for my father. My dad wasn’t the best dad, ”Hart said, citing his father’s history with drugs, incarceration and a bad relationship with his mother. For Will, he said he watched his dad “smash my mom in the head,” saying, “I made the decision that I was definitely not going to do this when I had my family.
Smith, of course, is the father of his son with ex-wife Sheree Zampino, Trey, 28, and two children with Jada, Jaden and Willow. Hart, meanwhile, has four children; Heaven, 16, and Hendrix, 13, with ex-wife Torrei and Kenzo, 3, and Kaori, 8 months, with wife Eniko Parrish.
While Hart said he was “very lucky to have two amazing mothers” for his children, he admitted that he had had “ups and downs” with his ex. Smith then asked how he made his blended family function… and what he had done wrong at first.
“I think the thing you are doing wrong is you are carrying your personal grudges. Your personal grudges affect your children, there is an energy, ”Hart said. “You both have energy. I made mistakes by participating in the wrong energy. We have arrived at a space where we both understood, there is like a cloud. He added that his co-parenting friendship with Torrei today is the best it has ever been.
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The conversation then turned to Hart’s indiscretions, including cheating on Eniko, which exploded while she was pregnant.
“I got into some bullshit, yeah,” Hart said, as Smith asked him how he handled this scandal with his kids. “You are never prepared for that side. Having a little girl in my life is difficult. You don’t realize the impact that your mistakes can really have. When the kids get involved, it’s a different feeling, it’s a different emotion. “
“Through my audience, uh, debacles… it’s very hard to bother me… very hard… but when your kid shows disappointment, shows emotion, shows” I don’t understand why “and you have to have these conversations, the head falls for the first time, ”he continued. “Now you realize that there is a different emotional cord that can be pulled over you that no one else has the privilege of touching. My daughter touched that cord, man. “
“When my wife and I went through what we’ve been through and all the cheating, my conversation with heaven, fuck shit,” Hart said. “It was like no other. Bringing my daughter back, making my daughter understand that I’m sorry, that I made a mistake, it was real. To understand, I’m still a dad. “
He added that Heaven was “hard” on him and, “to this day”, still is. “My daughter doesn’t play games with her dad, man. “
Both brought up the fact that issues in their personal lives have exploded in the media as well, with Hart noting that “every child has the Internet.”
“Jada and I have been very open with our, uh, realities. With our c— “, said Will. “We found that with our children, we just tell them everything. We’re trying to get ahead, so the kids know before the world knows it. We had a couple who touched the kids before we had a chance and it’s excruciating. “
Hart said he never had the luxury of approaching his children first, explaining that when his homophobic tweets made headlines and blew up his hosting concert at the Oscars, it was hard on his daughter .
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“When it all started to happen with the LGBTQ + community and the misconception of me, who I was and who I am and how I feel, my daughter was so upset because she couldn’t not understand how people could think of this about his father, ”he said. “It was so difficult because that’s when I started to realize how much my fame impacted my house. “
He said Heaven also needed to tell him about the way he had spoken about his mother in public, a conversation that he said had “shaken him”. “She checked me out,” Hart explained, saying she reminded him how those words – even if they were jokes – had a life of their own.
“The only thing Sheree always said was I have to be careful how I was talking about our marriage and our divorce and didn’t realize it really took me years to figure it out” said Will, who could understand. “Whatever you say, the world is going to punish me for it,” he said, she told him, “You give people permission to say and do things to do to me on the street. “
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Towards the end of the conversation, the two also touched on being daddy girls and some of the issues that come with it. As they both said they may have protected their children too much in raising them, Hart said his daughter was not “prepared for the man who could break her heart, the predator who wants a thing ”.
“She isn’t yet because all she knows is love, all she knows is happiness,” he said. “It’s not a bad thing, but it’s not a fucking good thing either. “
Sharing a story he thought Willow “was going to be mad” at him for telling, Will revealed how he set this “guy who was a friend” aside for a man-to-man conversation.
“I remember when he started coming, I said, ‘Dude, here’s the deal. If my daughter loves you, I love you and no matter what’s going on with you, I need two things from you, ”said Will. “Never put your hands on her and never leave her anywhere. You do these two things, I have you for the rest of your life, no matter what happens to you. “
Smith also explained that it took a long time for her to realize that her desires for her family don’t necessarily match what they want out of life – something Willow has been open to in the past.
“I have a vision and I’m a pit bull on a bone and I don’t let go of what I want it to be,” Smith said. “And there are atrocities and spider web tragedies that come with it, so I tried to let go of what I think you should be doing and support your vision combined with God’s vision for you, rather than trying to impose my ideas with the arrogance that I somehow know better than you. “
As the conversation ended, Jada appeared and let Will know that the two “did well” by taking control of his table.
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