Liverpool, Tottenham and the battle for superiority | Soccer

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IT’S MORE THAN WINNING

It was the moment when fans from different clubs argued at length over who was the best, only for the teams in question to play against each and provide them with an answer. These were crazy days, before heat maps, expected goals and green rectangles adorned with numbers, arrows, and circles, the non-existence of which meant people were more or less happy to use evidence from the scoreboard and with their own eyes to assess which of the two teams they were watching was better.

Of course it was then and it is now, and with the debate still raging over which team to win in Liverpool’s victory over Tottenham Hotspur long after the final whistle, a daily football email could be forgiven for wondering why both teams got bored of playing. not at all. What is the point, after all, of two groups of players clashing on the playing field, if it only serves to provoke, rather than settle the debate over which of them is superior?

Like many disputes before him, this one was sparked by José Mourinho’s comments, particularly his post-match claim that ‘the best team lost’. It’s an arguably misleading view that Liverpool fans greeted with post-match apoplexy on their Twitter accounts of the social media disgrace, despite the cold and utterly unqualified manner in which they generally greet all of them. opinions that could be considered even mildly critical of their team or its glorious leader. In contrast, Spurs fans were quick to endorse their manager’s point of view, pointing out that despite 0.00000001% possession, their team had created clearer chances and would have won comfortably if: a) they had scored more one of them; b) had not been the victim of a deviation by chance; and c) had taken the trouble to keep an eye on Bobby Firmino for that late turn.

Points valid on both sides of this sophisticated debate, The Fiver is sure you will agree. It’s an argument that looks set to boringly rumble until the end of the season. And if, as seems highly likely, one of these teams wins the title, then and only then will we know which of them is the best. Except we won’t know, because if Wednesday night’s frothy internet frenzy hasn’t shown us anything else, it’s because we’ve now reached a point of absurdity where teams attempting to decide on superiority over the football field is only the prelude to a series of much more unseemly. quarrels elsewhere.

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“After all, Big Sam gets the West Brom job (yesterday’s Fiver). Kicking the swingers could have been a better Christmas present ”- JJ Zucal.

“I suspect that Paul Sheppard’s hero Paul Moulden (the five letters from yesterday) will now have all the hungry Boltonians who show up with a homemade Bournemouth mask while waiting for a free fish supper (or since it’s Bolton, a free John Bull, fries and curry sauce). This great goal against Newcastle will cost him dearly ”- John Myles.

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Bad news for Jürgen Klopp and his co-workers: Premier League clubs have voted against the proposal to allow five substitutes, although the number allowed on the bench has risen to nine.

Arsenal fans will no doubt be happy to hear that Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has solved all of the club’s problems following their 10 men holding Southampton to a draw. “We have to stay cool in the head and try to be a little smarter,” he advised, “and try to stay with 11 on the pitch. “

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