Why do people hate Vader’s added line in ‘ROTJ’ so much?


There is no change in the Star wars Special editions that fans don’t despise. The one that is the subject of complaints most often is the Greedo scene from the original film (AKA A new hope), which leads fans to shout “Han shot first!” They also say that Darth Vader doesn’t shout “no”.

Star Wars has undergone a number of re-evaluations in recent times, with people saying the sequel trilogy and the previous trilogy don’t deserve their bad name. Fans have recently become more forgiving of George Lucas, but some of his DIYs are still rubbing fans the wrong way.

What was the change in ‘Return of the Jedi?’

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In the original version of the 1983 film, after Luke refuses to join the Emperor and join the Dark Side, the Emperor zaps Luke with Force Lightning to kill him. Luke screams in pain and begs his father for help, and Darth Vader initially seems unresponsive.

After looking at Luke for a while, without saying anything, he lifts the Emperor up, carries him to a well, and drops him. Vader, having been struck by lightning, died soon after.

In the late 1990s, as Lucas was preparing his prequel trilogy, he decided to modify his original trilogy, partly because he wanted to test digital effects, and partly because movies never quite suited him.

The changes first surfaced in 1997, theatrical issues, but what baffled fans was that the films changed every time they were released in a new format.

When the movies came out on Blu-Ray in 2011, the Emperor’s demise played out differently. This time when Vader looks at Luke, he says “No”. Then he takes the emperor and shouts “No! As he carries it to the well. Fans protested, saying it lessens the power of the moment.

The “no” sounded as if it came from the moment when Revenge of the Sith when the newly resurrected Darth Vader learns from the Emperor that he has killed his wife, Padmé. Vader screams no in anguish over there.

How do fans defend Vader Line?

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The general complaint about the added “no” is that it seems irrelevant to Vader, who fans see as the ultimate villain. Yes, he is redeemed in the end, but Vader yelling “No” struck fans as useless to say the least. However, a Reddit thread tries to justify it.

An opening subject writes: “My Star Wars Hot Take: Vader Howls” Noooo! When he saves Luke and kills the Emperor doesn’t take anything away from the scene, and honestly, it’s a good rhyme of his fall into the dark side when he attacked Mace Windu.

This is in reference to the scene from Revenge of the Sith.

However, one fan wrote that the lack of dialogue is what makes the scene work: “I think the fact that we don’t need it to figure out what he was thinking is why you have to leave him next to. Conveying Vader’s thoughts with just his mask is a good movie.

Another fan said, “It’s not something that ‘ruins’ the scene for me and the massive outrage that comes with it is a bit silly, it’s still a really good scene but I much prefer the version. original. It was a bit of a pointless decision, you could already get everything you needed from the stage without that NO.

Fans forgive George Lucas

While the various changes to the Special Edition, including the famous addition of “Maclunkey” continue to confuse fans, the vitriol that was directed at Lucas for these and the previous trilogy appears to have died down. .

Now fans have come back to the idea of ​​thanking Lucas for creating Star Wars in the first place, to the point of even criticizing Disney for rejecting his proposed sequel plan.

Another recent Reddit thread posted an image of Lucas approvingly watching Baby Yoda, which caused a stir in The Mandalorian. Lucas was not directly involved in this show, but fans see the image as representing Lucas’ redemption.

One wrote:

“I kind of see this image as a captured moment from George’s journey back to a happy place. After creating a groundbreaking story in his youth and basking in glory, he was happy. But after returning to build his universe more years later, he faced ridicule and intense abuse – forcing his hand to give up on his baby and possibly retire. But after more negative reactions regarding the other installments (he was probably glad he wasn’t involved), George is cordially invited to come back by (the current producers) to study the next chapter of his universe.


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