During the podcast, the two discussed many topics, from mental health to his controversial presidential campaign. And while the interview took place on many tangents, things got particularly engaging when Rogan explained to West why some people are calling him “crazy.”
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During the conversation, West did what he usually does, moving from personal anecdotes to historical references, to expansive metaphors about society, religion, love, and technology. At one point, West apologized for his non-linear thought pattern, calling it a “riff.” In response, Rogan shared his thoughts on West’s anomalous method of communication.
“But isn’t that what you’re doing, though?” Rogan asked. “Like, one of the things that I – when somebody talks to me about you, they say, ‘Well, he’s everywhere. And I say, “I think he’s got a different power source. Like if you look at the way everyone interfaces with the world, there is universal power. Most people have it as a 20 watt charger. The way I describe you, I say, “I think the mother… uh has like a 150 watt charger, and these ideas come to him.” So you go on these diatribes, which sometimes have to be dissected into individual things. But overall you are incredibly productive… ”
Kanye West says he speaks in a ‘symphony of ideas’
Continuing the conversation, Rogan asked West why people think something is wrong with him. He then recalled that West had been put on treatment and taken to a facility for his mental health.
West responded by explaining that he doesn’t think of the way the company programmed most people. He also claimed that his thoughts are best described as a “symphony of ideas” than as a rant.
“Well, I’ll say those two things,” West said. “I think very three-dimensional. I don’t think of the black and white lines that I have been programmed to think in. And I think in color. So when I speak, I have to describe a thought in five ways. You know, we like foods that contain multiple seasonings. We enjoy music that has multiple instruments. So when I speak, it’s not a rant. It is a symphony of ideas. And when you collect them, you say, “Oh, it’s all of these things that connect. Yeah, you know, I’m just telling the truth, and telling the truth is crazy in a world full of lies. It is quite simply that.
Joe Rogan and West discuss society’s understanding of Kanye West’s mental health
Rogan remained sympathetic to West as the conversation continued, doubling down on West’s notion that the company referred to its unorthodox methods of self-expression as mental illness.
“So that’s what you felt happened to you,” Rogan said. “Like you’re telling your truth, and you’re exhausted, and they call you mentally unhealthy.” Am I saying that right? What happened with you is that you maybe feel – or you probably want – that having that higher calling and recognizing that higher power was the glue that held your thoughts together. It has kept your mind and it has kept you on a straight path. So instead of being scattered with all these crazy thoughts and exhausted, and labeled manic, that’s right, like we talked about before, and you were saying they took you meds, but drugs f-ed with your creativity, in f… with all kinds of stuff.
“It blocked my ability to channel what God wanted me to do,” West said in response.