The interview itself begins with some really curious questions from Letterman about hair extensions before the host actually comes up with an apology to poke fun at. keeping up with the Kardashians in his Last show monologues back in the day. “Well, here we are and we’re not laughing now,” he says, pointing to the tremendous success his family has had. He also dismisses the idea that Kardashian is “famous for being famous” as he admits that there is a certain skill involved in directing a show like theirs.
From there, things quickly turn to more substantive topics, including her father’s role in the OJ Simpson trial – she still won’t say if she thinks he’s guilty out of respect for his children – and her Kardashian’s latest crusade as an advocate for prison sentence reform. Which, of course, leads to his unlikely alliance with President Donald Trump.
“I hope that for the next multiple administrations, I will work with the White House, helping them with leniency,” says Kardashian, as a photo appears onscreen of her with Alice Johnson, the woman she personally persuaded the president to commute, in the Oval Office with Trump.
Clearly uncomfortable with the idea of helping Trump’s image, Letterman then asks, “But do you think what’s being done in the name of sentencing reform now through this current administration is helping? in any way balances democracy in a corridor of sustainability?
It’s a terribly worded and absurd question that elicits the only logical response from its guest, who replies, “Well, I have no idea what you just said.
After the laughter and applause subsides, Letterman tries another tactic. “I’m grateful for what you do, but it doesn’t make me feel better about the current administration,” he says. But as she has done several times over the past two years, Kardashian refuses to say a bad word about the man in the White House, only telling him, “I understand that.
She won’t even tell Letterman who she is voting for in the presidential election, sitting silently as he presses her saying, “I know who I’m voting for.” Although the interview was taped before Joe Biden locked down the Democratic nomination and before Kanye West officially tossed his MAGA hat in the ring, the obvious implication is whoever has the best chance of beating Trump.
“Trust me, everyone called me and said, ‘Don’t you dare walk into this White House where your reputation is made,'” Kardashian says, arguing that it was a small price to pay. to save the lives of people who would. otherwise die in prison.
“But see, your good work is overwhelming,” Letterman admits. “It is a positive force that diminishes what I consider unacceptable behavior on the part of the president.”
« Believe me, everyone called me and said, “Don’t dare go into this White House or your reputation is lost.«
– Kim Kardashian West
Instead of accepting that such “unacceptable behavior” exists, Kardashian says only that she is “extremely grateful” for the administration’s work on criminal justice reform and that she “will remain focused” on it. that it can accomplish.
“Why don’t I feel like this? I’m not as good a person as you, maybe? Letterman asks in response, before realizing he may be at a dead end and moving on to other topics. Their conversation ends with a truly heart-wrenching account of the 2016 Paris flight in which Kardashian says she was sure she was going to die.
Throughout the hour, Letterman’s obvious affection for Kardashian is evident. In the end, he tells her that she “is on the right side of everything.” But he is also clearly distressed by his categorical refusal to criticize Trump, who he has known for decades should never have been given the power of the presidency.
Months after their interview, Alice Johnson appeared as a speaker at the Republican National Convention. But if she thanked the president profusely for having commuted his sentence, she notably refused to support him for a second term. Like Kardashian, Johnson told CNN’s Jake Tapper that she was “focused” on this narrow mission and clearly didn’t want to say anything that might shatter Trump’s ego.
As a reality TV star, Kardashian knows that Trump cares a lot more about being loved than actually helping people, so she wasn’t going to reveal the slightest hint of disapproval. Letterman became a world-class interviewer in his new, longer format, but even he couldn’t get it broken.