The Fauci clashes with Rand Paul again during coronavirus hearing: “You’re not listening”

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Dr Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, showed his frustration with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., Tout by challenging lawmakers’ assertion that lockdowns are not effective in combating COVID-19[FEMININE[FEMININE

Paul said that while people say the lockdowns have helped New York and New Jersey, those states have been hit pretty hard, with New York having the highest death rate in the world. He then said Sweden, which has not locked down, has a lower death rate, and asked Fauci if he now regrets any of his recommendations to tackle the pandemic.

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“You know, senator, I would be happy at another time to sit down and go over the details. You said a lot of different things. You compared us to Sweden and there are a lot of differences, ”said Fauci. “But compare Sweden’s death rate to that of other comparable Scandinavian countries. It’s worse. So I don’t think it’s appropriate to compare Sweden with us. ”

Regarding regrets, Fauci said he and other medical officials changed the recommendations as they learned more, but he didn’t regret the ones about the closures.

“I don’t regret saying that the only way we could have stopped the explosion of infection was essentially – and when I say ‘stop’ I mean basically having the physical separation and the kind of recommendations that we did, he said.

Paul, an ophthalmologist, once again referred to the high death rate in New York City as proof that the locks aren’t working.

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“You congratulated New York on its policies,” he said. “New York had the highest death rate in the world, how could we jump up and down and say, ‘Oh, Governor Cuomo did a great job.’ He had the world’s worst death rate.

“No, you are misinterpreting that, senator. And you’ve done it a number of times in the past, ”Fauci retorted, explaining that once New York followed White House guidelines, the state’s situation improved.

“They were very hard hit, they made mistakes,” he admitted. “Right now, if you look at what’s going on right now, the things that are going on in New York City to get their positivity test 1% or less, it’s because they’re looking at the guidelines that we put together. by working the four or five things – masks, social distances, outdoors more than indoors, avoiding crowds and washing your hands.

Paul suggested that what may have really happened is that enough people in New York City already had COVID-19 to confer immunity on the herd. Fauci categorically rejected this hypothesis.

“I dispute that, senator,” Fauci said. “I wish I could do that because it happens with Senator Rand all the time. You’re not listening to what the CDC director said, in New York it’s about 22%. If you think 22% is collective immunity, I think you’re on your own.

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Paul then postulated that people had pre-existing immunity due to cross-reactivity from other coronaviruses such as the common cold, which he said made up about a third of the population. Fauci disagreed again.

“I would like to talk to you about that as well,” Fauci said, “because a study was recently published that found that pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses which are the common cold does not respond to COVID-19. “

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