Donald Trump said the United States was “inferior to the world” when it came to coronavirus data, before suggesting that South Korea’s numbers were so low because they fake their statistics.
In an interview with Jonathan Swan of AXIOS on Monday, the president handed the reporter a series of tables and charts to illustrate that America is “inferior to the world” for Covid-19.
A Confused Swan clarifies that he was asking about death as a proportion of the population, not death as a proportion of cases.
“This is where America is really bad,” the reporter said of the death as a case of population spread.
“Much worse than South Korea, Germany, etc.
. @ jonathanvswan: “Oh, you kill in proportion to cases. I am talking about death as a proportion of the population. This is where the United States is really bad. Much worse than South Korea, Germany, etc. “@ Realdonaldtrump:” You can’t do that. “
Swan: “Why can’t I do this?” »Pic.twitter.com/MStySfkV39
– Axios (@axios) August 4, 2020
President Trump (pictured) and AXIOS national political correspondent Jonathan Swan argued over coronavirus statistics in a new interview released on Monday
Trump replies, “You can’t do this. “
“Why can’t I do this?” Swan retaliates.
“You have to go where – look, this is the United States,” Trump says, pulling off his charts. “You have to go through the cases.
“Why not as a proportion of the population? Swan said.
Swan (right) appeared surprised and confused by various claims from Trump, leading them to argue over the statistics
At one point in the interview, Trump suggested that South Korea may not fully report the number of coronavirus deaths, a statement that surprised Swan
“What that says is that when you have somebody where there’s a case, the people who live with those cases,” Trump said.
A skeptical swan responds that it is “surely relevant” to consider the statistics regarding the number of deaths relative to the population of a country, while Trump insists that “you have to go through the cases.”
Swan then refers to South Korea, which he says has 51 million people but only 300 deaths from coronavirus.
“You don’t know that,” Trump said.
Swan, surprised, replied, “Do you think they are rigging their stats?” South Korea, an advanced country?
“I won’t go into that because we have very good relations with the country. But you don’t know. And they have spikes, ”Trump said.
The conversation then turns to a discussion that America is currently doing more testing than other countries, which Trump says is part of why the United States is reporting so many cases of the coronavirus.
“Don’t we have credit for it? Trump asked, ultimately noting that “death is far from where it was” and asserts that “where it was is much higher than where it is now.”
Swan, however, said the number of coronavirus cases in the United States “went down, then it went up again.”
“But now it’s coming down. It’s happening in Arizona. It’s happening in Florida. It’s happening in Texas.
Swan, who had pointed out that it was the national numbers that had gone down, asked in disbelief, “Is this happening in Florida?
Florida was among the states to have seen a sudden and exponential resurgence in coronavirus cases after the state’s rapid reopening.
“Yeah, it’s stabilized and it’s going down, that’s my report from yesterday,” Trump said.
It was not immediately clear which day Trump’s latest reports referred to.
However, the Florida Department of Health reported on Monday that 4,752 people had tested positive for COVID-19 in the state, bringing the total number of cases in the state to 491,884.
The Tampa Bay Times reported that this was the lowest number of daily infections reported since mid-June and about half the average number of new positive infections reported daily since the previous week.
It was also said to be the second day in a row of lower infections reported in the state.