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Infectious Disease Expert Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health told The Ingraham Angle on Thursday that if America would not return to normal life without a coronavirus vaccine, the country could return to “one significant degree of normality ”by then.
Fauci spoke to Ingraham hours after the White House released the Coronavirus task force guidelines for easing restrictions that have been put in place in states and cities across the country. Fauci, along with the intervention coordinator for the task force, Dr. Deborah Birx and the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Robert Redfield, approved the guidelines before they were implemented.
” [The White House plan] is a gradual process [that] takes into account that we have a heterogeneous dynamic of epidemics across the country, “Fauci told Ingraham. … California is very different from New Orleans. It’s really different from New York or Detroit… places like Arkansas and New Mexico are very different. So what does this plan do [is], it creates a baseline of a starting point, which we call the trigger, where you must have some degree of indication that the epidemic is decreasing over a period of time. “
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At one point, Ingraham asked Fauci to respond to criticism of the new guidelines from the presumed Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
“I wouldn’t call it a plan,” Biden told CNN. “I think what it is [Trump’s] finished [is], he is a little kicked. He decided he had no right to call the country. It will not be finished until we have a vaccine. “
Fauci said he partially agreed with Biden, saying that the pandemic “was not going to end to the point that we could not do mitigation until we had a scientifically sound, safe and effective vaccine , but that doesn’t mean we can’t ‘approach a significant degree of normality. “
“One of the things we said very clearly [is], that during all these phases, there is a basic level of care that we would have to treat and that we did not have before having this epidemic, “continued Fauci. So whether you are in phase 1 and still tightened a bit or have already gone to phase 3, there are still guidelines for all phases. “
The doctor said the phasing process should help guard against possible regional “explosions” of the virus reproducing after initial mitigation efforts.
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Ingraham also asked why a COVID-19 vaccine is needed before getting back to normal life, suggesting SARS and HIV / AIDS as two examples of viruses where society does not need a vaccine to keep it working.
“HIV / AIDS is entirely different. We don’t have a vaccine against HIV / AIDS but we have a spectacularly effective treatment, “replied Fauci. “The people who would have invariably died years ago right now lead an essentially normal life.
“SARS is another story,” he added. “SARS is gone. … We were going through the different phases [of a vaccine]. We showed that it was safe, we showed that it induced a good response, then SARS disappeared and we did not need to develop a vaccine against SARS. “
Fauci went on to say that although there is a minute of possibility that the coronavirus will disappear like SARS, he warned that “the degree of effectiveness of [the] the transmissibility of “COVID-19 is” unprecedented “and a reason for being much more proactive.
“It is an extremely effective virus in transmitting from one person to another,” he said. “This kind of virus does not go away. “